We had the interview in April 24 at the Copenhagen clinic. Are you there too? Maybe it's different in Aarhus?
LG
EZS poor quality/ quantity DK
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Oh ok, we are in Aarhus, when we are there in October for the second transfer I will ask
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Diers in DK also does egg sharing, which they openly communicated during their presentation. The donors are on a standby egg donor list from shortly before the procedure. However, both recipients have to pay the same price.
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Thank you very much 😊
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Very irritating that "generalizing" is mentioned as a reason. Yes, I have heard and read many negative experiences from Dk and yes, this diminishes my trust in clinics in Dk. This has nothing to do with generalizing, but more with subjective perception and my personal consequences.
Of course I'm not naming a clinic as it's not my own experience. This is a very strange request. I can provide you with links in which those affected report. But links from other forums are obviously not welcome here. So I have saved myself the trouble.
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rosenmarie
We generally have nothing against links from other forums, we also allow links to other forums, which not every forum does, but that's just a side note. We are not active in other forums, except for Klein Putz, because we are allowed to announce our webinars there. All other forums block our access if we register there. For this reason alone, we don't know what is being written in other forums.
We are in constant contact with our partner clinics so that we can get the best for you, which is more important to us than cross-reading in other forums.The fact is that various active and silent forum members wrote to us because of the post and were very nervous. Some of them are preparing for a transfer to Denmark and such a post is bad per se, but that is no reason to withhold it once it has been confirmed.
We have asked several times that we would like to receive clinic names, because if they are our partner clinics, we will clarify this with them. In contrast to the commercial forums, we see this as important.But that's also what distinguishes us from the commercial forums, the operators don't care whether you get pregnant or are satisfied. These forums are run for commercial reasons, whereas we have had the same problems ourselves and know your situation only too well from our own experience, so we have a completely different intention for the forum.
Of course you can and should express your opinion, that's what a forum is for, but please don't generalize (the other forum girls have also told us that they take a very generalized view).
There are always negative reports from clinics or countries, we have experienced this very often over the last 25 years. Nevertheless, we have to address the problem with the clinics and try to solve it.
About a year ago there was a fairly similar problem in many Czech clinics (despite PGT-A), and before that it was the same in Spain. If you follow this over a long period of time, you can see that the same problems shift from one country to another. This is a completely normal cycle that we have observed again and again over the years.LG
Chris
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I asked Aagaard about egg sharing and they said that they don't do this and that all eggs from a donation belong to one patient. When I asked why the blastocyst rate is sometimes so poor (for example, we recently had 2 blastocysts from 16 eggs), the doctor said that they only freeze blastocysts of better than 3BB quality, whereas other clinics would probably also freeze poorer blastocysts and thus achieve higher blastocyst rates. I can't say whether this is true - C+C_Schmid, do you have any experience from other countries or clinics as to whether more poorer blastos are frozen there?
The doctor also said that when the donor is highly stimulated, attempts are made to "trick" nature in order to mature many eggs at once, but that nature cannot be properly tricked and therefore only a few eggs achieve a high quality.
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Nini We are not aware that clinics only freeze blastos of a certain quality. We spoke to a Spanish clinic a while ago about embryo quality, it was about the quality of the transferred embryos. The professor told us that sometimes not so nice embryos are more successful than the nice embryos.
What we find very strange is the yield of 16 eggs and two blastocysts. The statement in the last sentence is more than strange. So why did they let 16 eggs mature in your donor and not stimulate them even more carefully? Why do many other clinics, including in Denmark, create more than 2 blastocysts from 16 egg cells? We also find no evidence of egg sharing at Aagaard.
Our experience shows that with this number of eggs, at least 4 - 6 blastocysts should develop, at least if the spermiogram is OK.
Do YOU want to stay with Aagaard?LG
Chris
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Nini thanks for your information! Did Agaard say anything else about the plasma cells?
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Do YOU want to stay with Aagaard?No, if it doesn't work out in the current and next attempt, I would also tend to change clinics. Provided we can and want to afford a new attempt at all, that is not yet certain. I'm just afraid that a change of clinic would mean longer waiting times again... And open-ID donation is a condition for us (as of now).
I also found the doctor's statements rather questionable.
I would write something about the plasma cells and the other statements in today's conversation in the "Let's go part 2" thread.
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I am undergoing treatment in CZ and have received three blastocysts from 12 EZ.
5AA, 2BB+Fr and 2CB.
All of them were frozen. If only the good ones had been taken, I would only have had 1 left...
Whether something will come of the other 2 is another matter.
But it has to be said that it was a warranty package and of course you want to fulfill the warranty as much as possible.
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I am currently facing the choice of clinic myself and Denmark is an option for us. Thanks to Claudia and Chris's recommendation, I had discussions with Freya (Herning) and Maigaard (Aarhus) last week.
I found both conversations to be very professional, respectful and at eye level. All my (very many) questions were answered patiently and in detail. I had the feeling with both teams that they had both the recipient's perspective and the donor's protection in mind.
Both Freya and Maigaard work with fresh donations and deliberately avoid overstimulation. As a result, fewer eggs are usually retrieved, which of course also means that "only" 1-2 blastocysts are usually created. This was openly communicated to me. Important: This number is a conservative estimate - depending on the donor and quality, it can be more. However, both clinics do not want to raise false expectations.
Maigaard does not practice egg sharing - the entire donation belongs to one couple. Freya only shares the eggs if there is no desire for a sibling. This can be discussed beforehand.
In Denmark, genetic testing of embryos (PGT-A) is not permitted by law. The scope of donor screening is also limited. There is a detailed questionnaire and tests are usually carried out for HIV, hepatitis, chlamydia, gonorrhea and syphilis, etc. Larger genetic screenings (such as CF, SMA, Fragile X or a carrier screening covering hundreds of genes) are currently not standard, but may have to be requested and paid for separately - and are not always legally permitted.
My conclusion: To be honest, I was very positive about both clinics. I didn't experience any empty marketing promises, but realistic assessments and very human, transparent discussions.
We haven't decided on a clinic / country ourselves yet, but maybe it will help someone who is also looking. I wanted to share this here as it was a lot about Denmark.
Best regards
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Dear Emma,
What a great thread! I had exactly the same, very good experience in Denmark myself. We went to Aagaard in Aarhus and were very satisfied.
Best regards, Peanuts.78
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I have just found my transcript of the preliminary consultation with the Sellmer Clinic from spring 2025. The following was said about the expected blastocyst yield: Usually 5-8 eggs, fertilization rate 40-50 %, 3 blastocysts usual, 1 blastocyst guaranteed. 50-55 % pregnancy rate.
(No guarantee that I have written everything down correctly)
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